doctors seem to have had no role in creating obama care. we know that every projection shows there will be fewer doctors over the next decade, not more. >> right. >> we're going to have more folks, it looks like what is the outlook for physicians who after all are fairly central to health care? >> well, if you look at the cost and i remember from having practiced, the cost of practicing in a state like new york, you have rent, you have employees who are costly in the state of new york, you have rules and regulations you have to comply with, and then of course we have malpractice insurance, which across much of the country is far more costly than it needs to be. doctors unfortunately are finding that they are having to close their practices or reduce their practices or even retire early from practice because they don't know how they're going to be able to afford to keep up. >> some of the estimates rise as high as over 100,000, shortage of 100,000 doctors in this country over the next decade or so. you think it's going to be that severe? how